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[Edit] Were military tribunals in the US justified? |
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[Edit] Background and contextThe Executive Order establishing the tribunals and the Supreme Court ruling that halted them: In 2001, President Bush ordered the creation of military tribunals to try suspected terrorists. Following many years of debate over the justifications for these tribunals, the Supreme Court ruled on June 29th, 2006 in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld that they were unconstitutional and unlawful (both domestically and internationally) on a number of grounds:
Following the ruling, the current military tribunals were stopped, and 60 other pending tribunals for suspected terrorists have been cancelled (There are roughly 460 detainees in Guantanamo).[5] The debate continues: The Supreme court ruled against Rumsfeld and the Bush administration by a margin of only 5 to 3. That three judges dissented illustrates the difficulty of this debate, and the possibility that the ruling was wrong. Despite this ruling, President Bush the BBC reported that "President Bush has said he will work with Congress to try to solve the problem, suggesting that the debate over military tribunals may not be finished yet." - BBC On October 17th, 2006, such a bill was passed: The Military Commissions Act of 2006. According to the Council on Foreign Relations: "This legislation gives the US president authorization to set up military commissions to try enemy combatants, and sets some limits for their interrogation and prosecution based on Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions. Defendants may not invoke the Geneva Conventions during trials or file habeas corpus petitions in federal court, and cannot prevent hearsay evidence from entering the court. Defendants may receive the death sentence." The Supreme Court has said that such Congressional approval is constitutionally sufficient for the continuance of the tribunals. On the other hand, this would not undermine the legal and other constitutional arguments that it has presented. It should be noted that the full debate over these tribunals that lies before Congress and Americans extends even further than the constitutional and legal considerations addressed by the Supreme Court in its ruling. International diplomatic and image factors, American public opinion, and the general direction and weight of the think-tank and academic community (among other factors) are all salient to the overall question of whether the tribunals are justified. Other more in-depth background resources: |
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[Edit] [ ]Separation of Powers: Are military tribunals consistent with the separation of powers? | |
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[Edit] YesImage:President Bush and the Military.jpg Executive jurisdiction? Bush administration maintained that the Detainee Treatment Act deprived the Supreme Court of jurisdiction to review decisions by the D.C. Circuit Court.[6] The Bush Administration cites THREE STATUTES THAT MAY SUPPORT THE TRIBUNALS IN THE CONTEXT OF THE SEPARATION OF POWERS: the AUMF and two statutes of the Code of Military Justice: 1. AUMF - The Congressional Authorization for the Use of Military Force called for the Bush administration to take ALL NECESSARY MEANS IN PREVENTING FURTHER ATTACKS OF TERRORISM. The Bush administration argues that the tribunals are a key element of this. Indeed, Congress affirmed President Bush's interpretation of the statute, saying that the required consultation (under the 1973 War Powers Act) had occurred:
2 and 3: President Bush invoked authority based in two provisions of the Code of Military Justice. Section 82118 which grants subject matter jurisdiction to courts martial and does not otherwise “deprive...military tribunals of concurrent jurisdiction with respect to offenders or offenses that by statute or by the law of war” allow for such trials. CONGRESS GAVE "APPROPRIATE CONSULTATION" AFFIRMING TRIBUNALS - Some legal opinions indicate that this was sufficient, and that Congress did not necessarily have to directly establish them as some argue (counter ->):
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[Edit] NoImage:The US Supreme Court.jpg Court jurisdiction? COURT AUTHORITY: "Prohibiting inquiry into tribunal judgments by federal courts is a suspension of the writ of habeas corpus in violation of Article I." - Gerard Clark Suffolk Law School.[9] - "the President was authorized to issue the order, but that his attempt to insulate its judgments from habeas corpus is unconstitutional." (<- counter) Detainee Treatment Act doesn't deprive Supreme Court of jurisdiction over Hamdan v. Rumsfeld: The court denied the government's assertion that it lacks jurisdiction to review decisions by the D.C. Circuit Court because the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005 only strips the Supreme Court of appellate jurisdiction over cases filed after its enactment.[10] Marbury v. Madison clearly establishes the Court as the final arbiter of the meaning of the Constitution - it has jurisdiction in all criminal judgements, although Congress, and Congress alone, is Constitutionally permitted to limit the writ of habeus corpus: While the court has shown restraint when reviewing action of the military, or decisions of the Executive branch concerning national security or foreign affairs, this is the perogative of the courts alone; the executive does not have the contitutional right to shut-out the courts from national security matters.[11] United States v. Mendoza-Lopez - An example of Court intervention in a matter pertaining to "criminal sanctions" in an area where it has historically shown restraint. The Court reversed an order of deportation against an alien, who after being deported, was now being prosecuted for the crime of re-entry. The Court held that the failure to allow some meaningful Article III review of the defendant’s original deportation order required a reversal and remand. The Court stated, “Our cases establish that where a determination made in an administrative proceeding is to play a critical role in the subsequent imposition of a criminal sanction, there must be some meaningful review of the administrative proceeding...This principle means, at the very least, that where the defects in an administrative proceeding foreclose judicial review of that proceeding, an alternative means of obtaining judicial review must be made available before the administrative order may be used to establish conclusively an element of a criminal offense.” This precedent seems to translate very directly against the Bush administration's "foreclosing" Court jurisdiction on a similar matter of "criminal sanctions". It is important to note that the individual in question in Mendoza-Lopez was an alien (analogous in many ways to a foreign detainee), and that the courts were intervening in a matter where they historical gave deferrence to Congress - immigration and naturalization (analogous to the historical Court deferrence to the Executive on matters of national security). To take the analogy between this alien and a suspected terrorits detainee further, it should be noted that many regard the terrorist attacks of 9/11 as closer to criminal acts than to acts of war, since Al Qaeda is not a state actor. This would help further connect the potentially deportable crimes of Mendoza-Lopez and the potential "crimes" of the suspected terrorists detained at Guantanamo.[12]
Image:US Capitol Building.jpg Congressional authorization? CONGRESSIONAL POWERS: Congress has the power, vested in the Constitution in Article 1, to "constitute tribunals" - this seems to imply a specific statute is required from Congress, not something as non-specific as the Authorization for the Use of Military Force:
Ex Parte Milligan concluded that the power to suspend the writ of Habeus Corbus is the power of Congress, not the Executive: “The clause of the constitution, which authorizes the suspension of the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus, is in the 9th section of the first article. This article is devoted to the legislative department of the United States, and has not the slightest reference to the executive department.” The Court was clear that since the time of the Magna Carta, English speaking people had no toleration for executive suspensions of the writ. This seems to effectively reject as unconstitutional the Bush Administration's Executive Order that deprived the writ of habeus corpus to detainees.[15] The AUMF Was Insufficient: The Supreme Court ruled on June 29th, 2006 that the Authorization for the Use of Military Force did not give authority to President Bush to establish the tribunals.
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[Edit] [ ]Legality: Are military tribunals legal? | |
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[Edit] YesAn "extraordinary" emergency may call for circumventing certain more ordinary legal procedures: This point was argued in the actual 2001 executive order that instituted the tribunals: "An extraordinary emergency exists" because of "potential acts of terrorism", such that it is "not practicable to apply in military commissions under this order the principles of law and the rules of evidence generally recognized in the trial of criminal cases in the United States district courts."[16]
Military tribunals have a history that runs back to the revolutionary war. They were used in the Spanish-American War, the Civil War, World War I and World War II, although not in Korea, Vietnam, or the Persian Gulf.[17] Image:Franklin-Roosevelt.jpg Roosevelt's Tribunal WWII Qurin case may provide precedent for detainee tribunals: Supporters of tribunals often cite as precedent a case from World War II in which eight German naval officers landed secretly on beaches in the United States and attempted to sabotage war-production facilities. President Roosevelt, by Executive Order, established a military commission for the German officers. The Supreme Court maintained the proceedings as constitutionally permissible under the circumstances. The Court stated, “We have no occasion now to define with meticulous care the ultimate boundaries of the jurisdiction of military tribunals to try persons according to the law of war. It is enough that petitioners here, upon the conceded facts, were plainly within those boundaries."[18](see counter - >)
HABEAS CORPUS: Opinion that right of Habeus Corpus does not apply to aliens detained by DOD at Guantanamo: Justice Scalia dissented from the majority ruling to see the Hamdan case, arguing that the Detainee Treatment Act (December 30, 2005) states "[N]o court, justice, or judge shall have jurisdiction to hear or consider an application for a writ of habeas corpus filed by or on behalf of an alien detained by the Department of Defense at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba." §1005(e)(1), 119 Stat. 2742.[21]
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[Edit] No(<- counter) Opinion that there are NEVER "EXTRAORDINARY" CIRCUMSTANCES THAT JUSTIFY SETTING ASIDE CERTAIN ORDGINARY LEGAL PROCEDURES: On Ex Parte Milligan Justice Davis, a 1862 Lincoln appointee, expressed this opinion in a lengthy survey of English history, Pre-Revolutionary history, and the Framing of the Constitution: "Time has proven the discernment of our ancestors; for even these provisions, expressed in such plain English words, that it would seem the ingenuity of man could not evade them, are now, after the lapse of more than seventy years, sought to be avoided. Those great and good men foresaw that troublous times would arise, when rules and people would become restive under restraint, and seek by sharp and decisive measures to accomplish ends deemed just and proper; and that the principles of constitutional liberty would be in peril, unless established by irrepealable law. The history of the world had taught them that what was done in the past might be attempted in the future. The Constitution of the United States is a law for rulers and people, equally in war and in peace, and covers with the shield of its protection all classes of men, at all times, and under all circumstances. No doctrine, involving more pernicious consequences, was ever invented by the wit of man than that any of its provisions can be suspended during any of the great exigencies of government. Such a doctrine leads directly to anarchy or despotism, but the theory of necessity on which it is based is false; for the government, within the Constitution, has all the powers granted to it, which are necessary to preserve its existence; as has been happily proved by the result of the great effort to throw off its just authority."[22] (<-counter) WWII Qurin Case - There may be important differences seperating the World War II case from the present situation.
<-WWII Case has since been criticized by legal scholars as a "rush to judgement"[24] It is “not a happy precedent,’ said Justice Felix Frankfurter in 1953. Justice William Douglas regretted ruling so quickly without offering a fully reasoned opinion. ‘It is extremely undesirable to announce a decision on the merits without an opinion accompanying it,’ Douglas later said of Quirin. Scholar John Frank, who was a clerk to Justice Black during the Quirin case wrote, "the Court allowed itself to be stampeded.’" [25] Image:Lincoln and civil war.jpg Not for Lincoln even in Civil War - Milligan Ex parte Milligan: Courts ruled against tribunals during the Civil War - that they're not Article III courts - may undermine the Bush administration's claim that the War on Terror is an "extraordinary" justification: In ex parte Milligan, the Court decided that neither statute nor the Constitution authorized a military trial of a civilian when the civil courts were still operating. According to Gerard Clark of Suffolk University Law School, "The Court rejected the argument that the commissions were appropriate under the laws of war. Nor did the President's power as commander in Chief justify the use of these commissions." It is important to note that the Court maintained that even the Civil War could not justify the creation of these commissions. This may undermine the Bush administration's claim that the War on Terror is sufficiently "extraordinary" for the creation of such tribunals, as it seems that the Civil War was an even greater crisis for the Union.[26]
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[Edit] [ ]Due process? Do military tribunals involve sufficient due process? | |
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[Edit] YesAn "extraordinary" emergency may call for circumvented certain more ordinary legal procedures: This point was argued in the actual 2001 executive order that instituted the tribunals: "An extraordinary emergency exists" because of "potential acts of terrorism" such that it is "not practicable to apply in military commissions under this order the principles of law and the rules of evidence generally recognized in the trial of criminal cases in the United States district courts."[27] (See subquestion 2 for the extension of this argument)
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[Edit] No(<- counter) Opinion that there are NEVER "EXTRAORDINARY" CIRCUMSTANCES THAT JUSTIFY SETTING ASIDE CERTAIN ORDGINARY LEGAL PROCEDURES: On Ex Parte Milligan Justice Davis, a 1862 Lincoln appointee, expressed this opinion in a lengthy survey of English history, Pre-Revolutionary history, and the Framing of the Constitution: (see excerpt of Justice Davis's opinion in Subquestion 2) Not the same as court-martials - Defendents in military tribunals have far fewer procedural rights than those in court-martials, which some argue is unfair and unjust:[28]
Low standards for evidence in tribunals are likely to lead to innacurate conclusions: Rules of evidence in civilian courts are created to ensure that the evidence used is not in any way fraudulent, tainted, or erroneous and, subsequently, liable to lead to squewed conclusions. The rules of evidence for military tribunals fall below these standards, and, therefore, are liable to lead to inaccurate conclusions: [29]
"Innocent until proven guilty" principle is not being applied to detainees many think that it should: Those in charge of the tribunals already have made numerous statements to the effect that the accused are guilty. Discussing the military tribunals, President Bush said, “Remember, these are - the ones in Guantanamo Bay are killers.” Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfield described the detainees as “among the most dangerous, best trained, vicious killers on the face of the earth,” and said that their treatment would be “consistent with the principles that our nation was founded on, the principles that they obviously abhor and which they sought to attack and destroy.”[30]
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[Edit] [ ]Are the rules and guidelines regulating the provision of attorneys for Military Tribunals legal/justifiable? | |
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[Edit] YesImage:US Military Lawyers.jpg Lawyer access in tribunals An "extraordinary" emergency may call for circumvented certain more ordinary legal procedures: This point was argued in the actual 2001 executive order that instituted the tribunals: "An extraordinary emergency exists" because of "potential acts of terrorism" such that it is "not practicable to apply in military commissions under this order the principles of law and the rules of evidence generally recognized in the trial of criminal cases in the United States district courts."[31] (See subquestion 2 for the extension of this argument)
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[Edit] No(<- counter) Opinion that there are never "extraordinary" circumstances that justify setting aside certain ordinary legal procedures: On Ex Parte Milligan Justice Davis, a 1862 Lincoln appointee, expressed this opinion in a lengthy survey of English history, Pre-Revolutionary history, and the Framing of the Constitution:(see excerpt of Justice Davis's opinion in Subquestion 2 and other related arguments) Unfair supply of attorneys: According to the Defense Department rules on military tribunals, regardless of the wishes of defendants, they will be appointed a military lawyer at government expense. They may obtain a regular criminal defense attorney only if they arrange and pay for it themselves. In civilian courts, the inability to pay for a private attorney appropriately leads to the supply of one at government expense. This includes the cost of the attorney and all expenses.
As a result, most defendants are unlikely to have civilian attorneys and instead must be represented by a military lawyer appointed by and under the authority of the executive branch. The problem is that this means the defendant has no opportunity to work with a defense attorney who is fully independent from his prosecutors and with whom he feels confident will represent only his interests.[34]
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[Edit] [ ]Is limited public access to the proceedings of some military tribunal cases legal/justifiable? | |
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[Edit] YesAn "extraordinary" emergency may call for circumvented certain more ordinary legal procedures: This point was argued in the actual 2001 executive order that instituted the tribunals: "An extraordinary emergency exists" because of "potential acts of terrorism" such that it is "not practicable to apply in military commissions under this order the principles of law and the rules of evidence generally recognized in the trial of criminal cases in the United States district courts."[35] (See subquestion 2 for the extension of this argument)
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[Edit] No(<- counter) Opinion that there are NEVER "EXTRAORDINARY" CIRCUMSTANCES THAT JUSTIFY SETTING ASIDE CERTAIN ORDGINARY LEGAL PROCEDURES: On Ex Parte Milligan Justice Davis, a 1862 Lincoln appointee, expressed this opinion in a lengthy survey of English history, Pre-Revolutionary history, and the Framing of the Constitution: (See excerpt of Davis's opinion in Subquestion 2 and other related arguments) Limited Access to Proceedings: (needs to be condensed ->)"The hearings may be closed in certain instances to the press, public, and the defendant if classified information is used or the discussion could endanger national security. Only defense attorneys with security clearance may be present, and may not reveal the content of the proceedings to their clients. At times, the civilian defense attorney will be barred from proceedings and access to some secret information." It may unfairly obstruct the defense: Critics claim that these rules limit the ability of the defendant and his counsel to know what the evidence is against him. They say it is extremely difficult to fight charges if the accused does not know what proof the prosecution has of what it alleges. Moreover, the defense team always will have access to all of the information and all of the proceedings. In essence, they say that only people within the military command will have access to all of the proceedings and evidence.
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[Edit] [ ]Are the military tribunals consistent with international law? | |
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[Edit] YesDC Court of Appeals upheld the international legality of the tribunals on July 15, 2005: This reversed the decision of the District Court in favor of Hamdan. The decision cited the following reasons why the tribunals conform with internationl laws: [36]
Justice Alito concluded that tribunals did conform with the requirement in Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions that any such tribunals be "a regularly constituted court" He argued that Common Article 3 was satisfied in Hamdan's case because the military commissions:[44]
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[Edit] NoThe Supreme Court ruled on June 29th, 2006 that the military tribunals violate the Geneva convention.[45] The tribunals violate the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.[citation needed] The Uniform Code of Military Justice of the Geneva Convention: Article 39, governing military commissions, requires that sessions of a “trial by court-martial . . . shall be conducted in the presence of the accused.” This has often not occured in the military tribunals.[46] The Executive Order establishing the tribunals applies to any member of Al Qaida and to those who harbor terrorists. Yet, such persons are not necessarily violators of the laws of war.[47]
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[Edit] [ ]Write Subquestion here... | |
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[Edit] YesSenator John Warner (R-VA) said he doesn't regard the Supreme Court decision as "a blow" to US legal credibility, but rather as merely "an interpretation of the law".[48]
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[Edit] NoHarold Hongju Koh, a Yale law professor, said recently the tribunalsare “dangerous because secret commissions impair... accountability and convey...unfairness to the rest of the world.” He also said that the system is “misguided because it falsely suggests that regular American courts are incapable of administering justice to those who grossly violate international law.”[49] Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT) said that the tribunals have "violated fundamental American values, tarnished our standing in the world and hindered the partnerships we need with our allies. This arrogance and incompetence have delayed and weakened the handling of the war on terror"[50]
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[Edit] [ ]Where does the American government stand? | |
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[Edit] YesThe House of Representatives passed the Military Commissions Act by a vote of 253 to 168. Republicans voted 219 to 7 in favor.[51] |
[Edit] NoHouse Democrats voted 160 to 34 against the 2006 military tribunals legislation.[52] |
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